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Robert "Han" Bishop, PhD / Producer and Host

Mar 28, 2012

This is the second of a two part interview with Linda Groves-Bonder and Saniel Bonder respectively, about the unique and powerful spiritual process they have developed and teach, which is called “Waking Down in Mutuality”. 

Linda Groves-Bonder awakened in 1998 with the help of her husband Saniel, and then went on to become a senior teacher within the Waking Down in Mutuality movement. Linda’s passion for the arts led her, early in life, to become a professional singer and songwriter which she is to this day. Recently, she released a CD of wordless vocal toning called “Joy of Being” which communicates just that. LInda and Saniel have also recently founded the Human Sun Institute dedicated to awakening and empowering Leaders for the New Millennium.

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                                                Robert Han Bishop (3-28-12)