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Robert "Han" Bishop, PhD / Producer and Host

Mar 21, 2012

This is the first of a two part interview with Saniel Bonder and Linda Groves-Bonder respectively, about the unique and powerful spiritual process they have developed and teach, which they call “Waking Down in Mutuality”. 

Saniel Bonder is a Harvard Graduate, who had a profound spiritual awakening in1992, and since then, has devoted his entire life to helping others do the same. Saniel has authored more than a dozen books on spirituality, and helped hundreds of ordinary people to achieve a remarkable unity of body, mind and spirit  He and his partner, LInda have recently founded the Human Sun Institute dedicated to Awakening and Empowering Leaders for the New Millennium.

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                                                     Robert Han Bishop (3-21-12)